The Federalist: California Liberals try to ban gun shows

Thursday, January 24, 2013

California Liberals try to ban gun shows

Gun Control - The Armenian Genocide
Upwards of 1,500,000 unarmed Christian Armenians were slaughtered by the Muslim Turks of the Ottoman Empire.

What Genocide? - Insane liberal Armenian-American Councilmen want to ban gun shows

Armenian-American Councilmen in Glendale, California are so obsessed with fanatical liberal dogma that they choose to ignore the genocide of their own unarmed people.

Glendale, California hosts the second largest Armenian population of any city in the USA (Los Angeles is first). With a total city population of nearly 200,000 - the number of Armenians is roughly 80,000.

But insane Liberalism (is there another kind?) is far more important to the Armenian-American city councilmen than their own history of genocide. So the city crack down on those "evil" gun shows starts.

The Glendale City Council decided to allow a March gun show slated for the Glendale Civic Center to go on as planned while the city attorney conducts further research into possibly banning gun show events from being held on municipal property.

The next gun show at the Glendale Civic Auditorium is set for March 2-3. Gun shows are also slated in Glendale during August and November.

Unarmed and Dead - The Armenian Genocide

BBC - The Armenian Genocide

Held at the Civic Auditorium since 1992, the Glendale Gun Shows have generated about $158,000 in revenue during the last three years. According to a city report, the events, if allowed to go on, will likely bring in another $57,000 to the venue in 2013.

Councilmember Rafi Manoukian introduced the motion to ban gun shows on city property after the Newtown, Conn., shooting. Manoukian tried to pass a similar ban in 2006 reports NBC News Los Angeles.

"This is not a discussion about gun ownership or possession of guns," said Manoukian. "It is not a discussion of banning gun shows. It is a discussion about a gun show across the street from Glendale Community College."

Glendale (in red) is in the foothills
above Los Angeles

"I sit here and listen to bigots that don’t want to give us our First Amendment right," said Bruce Boyer, who opposes the ban. "Oh, we can’t allow them to have a gun show. Well, if you tell us that we can’t have a gun show, who’s next? No photography show?"

"The issue is not about gun ownership rights or the constitution as the NRA wants you to believe," said Zanku Armenian, a supporter of the ban. "I’m not speaking against gun ownership today. This is about the rights of a community to determine what is appropriate for their neighborhood and city."

In a 4 to 1 vote, the City Council decided to direct the city attorney to research options for an ordinance that would ban gun sales on city-owned property. Gun sales will still be allowed on private property.

The council discussed several options, which included terminating the gun show’s rental agreement, temporarily banning the possession or sale of firearms and ammunition at city-owned property, or allowing already-scheduled gun shows to operate through the end of the year before enforcing the ban, according to Tuesday's City Council agenda.

Also see The Armenian Genocide.

"When the Turkish authorities gave the orders for these deportations, they were merely giving the death warrant to a whole race; they understood this well, and, in their conversations with me, they made no particular attempt to conceal the fact…"
U.S. Ambassador Henry Morgenthau, Sr. in 1918.

Gun Control - The Jewish Genocide
Pro-gun control American Jews forget that their unarmed family members were rounded up by a legal government and exterminate.

2 comments:

Anonymous said...: My question is, how is the Armenian American community in this California town forgetting the history of their genocide by proposing a ban against gun shows in their community? Do you mean to say that they are neglecting the fact that they could have armed themselves against the Turks had they been granted the same rights as Americans by the 2nd Amendment? And now they are trying to take that right away from others? If so, please state that in clearer terms. This article never makes a clear connection to gun rights and the history of the Armenian genocide, or how the liberal agenda had a hand in all of this.

As an Armenian, perhaps I can give you a fresh perspective on this issue. You yourself use the John Adam's quote at the top of your page, "There is danger from all men." As an Armenian American with family massacred during the genocide, my family and my community knows this fact very well. I'm sure these councilmen understand John Adams' quote this very well, too. If the stipulation is that there is danger from all men (and women), how are we to trust all Americans with guns? Perhaps these Armenian Americans don't. Their families were betrayed by Turkish countrymen. Their families and communities were destroyed with guns, so perhaps they have a reasonable aversion to gun owners, gun users, and gun enthusiasts in their community based on their personal history and experience. If you look at it this way, their aversion to gun shows is deeply rooted in their history--not negligent of it. Which poses my next question, why does this have to be about the liberal agenda, and not Armenian Americans' extensive and bloody history with gun violence? I don't see any liberal agenda at work here. Just a group of people who have had family killed by guns.

I do also want to point out: As a Federalist, I'm sure you agree that the Federal government should hold as little power as possible when determining the rights and the freedoms of smaller communities, such as states and municipalities. If these men are elected councilmen and as legislators represent the voices and votes of their community, you can't be angry if community members exercise their rights, propose a ban, and the ban passes by those elected representatives. Even if they ban something you happen to enjoy or think is beneficial financially to the community. Let's think of it in similar but different terms: gay marriage. The Supreme Court ruled that it is unconstitutional to prevent the marriage of same sex couples. Would you then be mad if a smaller community exercised their 10th amendment rights and proposed a ban on gay marriages in their community? And then elected officials of that community who represent the common opinion of that community pass the ban? What if this community passed this ban due to their religious identity and their religious experiences? Wouldn't this be similar to Armenians banning guns based on their cultural identity, history and experience with gun violence? Perhaps these Armenian Americans are also very devout Christians who believe in turning the other cheek, and don't believe their community members need to own machines used for killing other people? All things to consider before posting next time.; September 25, 2015 at 9:26 AM
Gary said...: You cover way too many subjects to address.

As for guns liberalism is insane and has infected the Armenian, Jewish and other communities on guns.

The Constitution is the supreme law of the land says the Founding Fathers and Federalist Chief Justice John Marshall.

Gay marriage is a non issue. Equal protection under the law. You cannot have straight marriages recognized as legal in all states but legal Gay marriages not recognized by some states. People move around and have the right to have their marriage recognized.; September 26, 2015 at 6:22 AM

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