The Federalist: People are Insane - Big Government gone wild

Thursday, September 15, 2011

People are Insane - Big Government gone wild

Your tax dollars at work. Over 2,400 California prison gurads were paid over $100,000 in 2010.

Big Government Insanity: Spending $1.4 million in tax money to put a guy in prison for life who shoplifted $20.94

By Gary:

To use a technical term, in general human beings are crazy. But humans in the People's Republic of California are really nuts.

I never met Scott Hove, and I hope I never do. Hove tucked a spool of welding wire and work gloves inside his waistband and headed for the Home Depot store's exit without paying.

As he made his way out of the Lake Elsinore, California store, employees stopped Hove and found the stolen merchandise hidden under his sweat shirt.

"I was stupid," the certified welder told them.

The items were worth only $20.94. But the theft cost Hove, 45, a life prison sentence recently, when a Riverside County judge ordered him to spend 29 years to life behind bars under California's three-strikes law.

His other strikes were mostly drug retaled: stealing a few VCRs to buy drugs, pot possession, driving under the influence and have a small amount of drugs for sale. Mostly Drug War crimes, reports the Los Angeles Times.

But he gets life in prison for shoplifting items worth $20.94.

$20.94 vs. $1,410,000

The current cost of housing a prisoner in California is a ridiculous $47,000 a year. So if the 45 year old Hove lives another 30 years we are talking about spending $1,410,000 in prison costs.

It appears I am in the minority for daring to think that the cost-benefit ratio to society and the taxpayer is just a bit off here.

But I am the minority. Both Liberals and Conservatives think this insanity that builds Big Government is a good idea.

Scott Hove gets life in
prison for shopplifting
a huge $20.94

LIBERALS: The professional Left likes to publically wring their hands and weep over the poor, those abused by the evil system and by life in general. They claim to be shocked by the three strikes law. But the fact of the matter is deep down they like it. Filling prisons with the so-called lower orders is a good thing. People at the bottom mostly do not vote and Liberals get to pretend they are hard on crime.

Then there is the added benefit that the prisons are a massive job industry for government employee labor unions. And these labor unions give millions and millions in campaign money to Democrats. The Democrats have a financial stake in keeping the prisons full and the unions fully staffed.

CONSERVATIVES: The insanity of Conservatives favoring excessive punishment is more based in morality. It is a "I had to give him the death penalty to teach him a lesson" type attitude. Just like during Prohibition, the Conservatives like filling the prisons with those who are breaking the laws of God. In many, many cases these days it is the Drug War.

Also, the Prison Industry is indeed an industry. Often Republican oriented businessmen are supplying the prisons with food, clothing and supplies they need to keep these small cities going every day. The Republican oriented prosecutors and police look at drug and other crimes as a Full Employment Act for their branches of government.

California Conservation Corps
Instead of having prisoners sit on their butts put them to work.

Let the punishment fit the crime

Here is a radical thought. Let the punishment fit the crime. Life in prison for non-violent crimes is not just stupid. It is a waste of limited tax money.

Try this. Instead of an automatic and moronic life sentence in prison, give someone like Hove a choice of sentences.

1) Five years in prison for this non-violent third strike and another five years on probation or

2) Two years full time service in the California Conservation Corps and another five years on probation.

I say really give this guy a true punishment. Rather than him sitting on his butt in prison draining away tax dollars, take that criminal butt and work it harder than it has ever worked in its' life.

Some of the hard back breaking work of the Conservation Corps includes trail maintenance, riparian zone restoration, tree planting and exotic plant species removal, or construction and roadside maintenance. Wildfires are a major California problem. Get these guys out there building mountainside fire breaks and helping fire crews put out fires.

A couple of years of tough hard work just might cure some folks of crime. Teach them self-respect and team work. Even if they are not cured, society gets a Hell of a lot of free labor.

But Common Sense is Dead. Rational thought is not allowed in a modern Big Government society.

The hand-wringing Liberals will claim the evil government is making these poor non-union prisoners WORK and provide value to the society that they harmed. Not to mention we might need fewer unionized prison guards who contribute mightily to Democratic coffers.

Conservatives will knee-jerk somehow that such a proposal would be "soft" on crime. Never mind prisoners would be punished everyday with hard, sweaty work instead of sitting on their asses at $47,000 a year.

I can see liberals wringing their hands that the poor prisoners had to work.

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Commissioned as captain in the 1st South Carolina Regiment of the Continental Army. After seeing much action, he became an aide-de-camp to General Horatio Gates. He was captured by the British at the disastrous Battle of Camden in 1780. After recovering from his wounds, he was released in a prisoner exchange. In 1781 he fought under Lafayette in Virginia. Appointed by President George Washington to be the U.S. minister to Great Britain served as Envoy Extraordinary to Spain. The Federalist Party made him a candidate in the 1796 presidential election as the intended running-mate of John Adams. Served as Congressman and Governor of South Carolina. Served as a major general in the Army during the War of 1812.

Henry Lee III, Federalist

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Frederick Frelinghuysen, Federalist

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Stephen Van Rensselaer, Federalist

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James Hillhouse, Federalist

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Oliver Ellsworth, Federalist

In 1777 he was chosen as one of Connecticut's representatives in the Continental Congress. Served at the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia as a delegate from Connecticut. On June 20, 1787 he proposed the use of the name the United States to identify the nation under the authority of the Constitution. United States Senator from Connecticut. Ellsworth was the principal exponent in the Senate of Alexander Hamilton's economic program. In 1796 Ellsworth was appointed by President George Washington to be Chief Justice of the United States. Served as United States Envoy Extraordinary to the Court of France. Ellsworth was a candidate in the 1796 United States Presidential election, receiving eleven votes in the electoral college.

Robert Goodloe Harper, Federalist

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Jacob Read, Federalist

Alexander Contee Hanson, Federalist

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William Bingham, Federalist

As a merchant he brought full loads of munitions & guns for the war. Served as a diplomat for Congress to France. Bingham marshaled the Second Troop of Philadelphia Light Horse. He served in the Continental Congress, 1st Speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives, State Senator, and US Senator. Federalists agreed to hold preliminary votings at the Bingham Estate before propositions were brought before Congress publicly, thus creating unanimity among party lines. Alexander Hamilton sought Bingham as his mentor in managing taxes, tariffs, and in constructing a national bank.

Ezekiel Whitman, Federalist

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David Cobb, Federalist

Cobb studied medicine in Boston and practiced in Taunton, Massachusetts. He was a member of the Massachusetts Provincial Congress in 1775; lieutenant colonel of Jackson’s regiment in 1777 and 1778, serving in Rhode Island and New Jersey; was aide-de-camp on the staff of General George Washington; appointed major general of militia in 1786. Fought in the New York and New Jersey Campaign, the Battles of Springfield, Monmouth, Rhode Island and Shay's Rebellion. He served the Federalist Party as Lt. Governor of Massachusetts, President of the State Senate and Congressman.

Josiah Parker, Federalist

In 1775 Parker enlisted in the Continental Army. He was commissioned a major in the 5th Virginia Regiment in 1776 and became its colonel in 1778. His regiment served in Virginia under General Charles Lee and was transferred to George Washington. The regiment thereafter saw action at the Battles of Trenton, Princeton, Brandywine, Germantown, Monmouth and the Siege of Charleston. During Cornwallis's Virginia campaign in 1781, the notorious Colonel Tarleton ransacked his home. He was elected to the First US Congress from Virginia serving for twelve years.

William Stephens Smith, Federalist

Smith married Abigail "Nabby" Adams, the daughter of President John Adams, and so was a brother-in-law of President John Quincy Adams, and an uncle of Charles Francis Adams. Served in the Revolutionary Army as aide-de-camp to General John Sullivan. Fought in the Battle of Long Island, was wounded at Harlem Heights, Battle of White Plains, was promoted to lieutenant colonel at the Battle of Trenton, fought at the Battle of Monmouth and Newport. He was on the staff of General Lafayette, became an adjutant in the Corps of Light Infantry, then transferred to the staff of George Washington. Elected as a Federalist Congressman from New York.

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John Rutledge, Jr., Federalist

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John Sergeant, Federalist

Member of the Pennsylvania state house of representatives 1808-1810; elected as a Federalist to Congress and served from 1815, to 1823. Sergeant was a strong backer of Henry Clay's American System and the Second Bank of the United States, and even traveled to Europe to negotiate loans to the Bank. He was a strong opponent of slavery who voted against the Missouri Compromise. In 1826 he was an envoy to the Panama Congress. Elected to Congress as an Adams candidate 1827 to 1829. Failing re-election he became legal counsel to the Bank of the United States. Sergeant was the Vice Presidential running mate in Henry Clay's campaign on the National Republican ticket in 1832. Elected as a Whig to Congress serving from 1837 to 1841.

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Philip Barton Key, Federalist

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